News Oct 12, 2022 at 2:02 pm

"Disappointed" Advocates Demand More Democrats in Congress

Trans advocates don't have much nice to say about Republican challenger Tiffany Smiley, especially after seeing what her account likes on Twitter Anthony Keo

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"... these tweets
paint a picture of someone
who is not likely to stand up for
trans people on the Senate floor."

they Do paint a pic
of someone willing to toss
anyone with a non-Traditional outlook
to the Wolves whenever the Time comes

elect "Republicans"
at Your Peril
fools.

it may be 2022
but you're not too
safe from Slavery anymore

not when the
Fascists are
In Charge

oh and don't say
you did Not See
this one coming.

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Well. This will certainly kick-start SLOG back on schedule. The usual trans-phobe trolls have been way behind on the twice quarterly screeching about "trans women a-ruin'n the sports."

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Tiffany Smiley and Joe Kent are the WA state GOP’s attempt to get in on the fascist fad the RNC is pushing. As far as I can tell, Smiley is an idiot, and Kent is damaged goods from the military.

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Smiley Tiffany aside, we've now entered a depressing level when likes and retweets are now harvested to feed the outrage industrial complex.

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I wonder why this woman won't come out publicly denounce the MAGA death cult that has taken over the party she still wants to be a part of for some reason? She tried to scrub the internet, and that didn't work, so it would really mean a lot to hear it from the horse's mouth that she does not endorse that kind of Republicanism.

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@6, Too many MAGA's in the base to denounce them, she needs their votes.

The "disappointed advocates", particularly if they are young, should become the change they seek in the democratic party and run for office or at least help organize campaign to help good democrats win. Somebody has to replace the Nancy Pelosi fossils in the party, of which there are too many. The republicans, as wretched as they are, are able to regenerate their ranks with new young Nazis every year.

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@5 Why on earth shouldn't a candidate's likes and retweets be scrutinized? They're statements that were made in a public forum and intended for public consumption, every bit as much as those made in front of a crowd on a campaign stage. I would argue they deserve to be given ~more~ weight than non-public statements (such as, for example, a decades-old college paper unearthed by an oppo-researcher).

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Dogis dear, you may have missed this, but we recently had a GLOBAL pandemic that disrupted GLOBAL supply chains, causing GLOBAL inflation (which will likely linger because of our outsourcing of almost everything to China, which has an absolutely stupid response to Covid)

“Record” crime? Try again dear.

“Failing public schools”? schools can only do so much. Parents need to pay some attention to things other than how the teams are doing and who is in what bathroom.

And if believe Republican “pledges” on abortion, you really belong in a more structured environment.

“Time for a new Senator”? Perhaps. But not an unqualified nobody from nowhere with no legislative experience. The GOP tried that with Culp, because malignant doorknobs are the only people they can get to support their stupid positions.

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@11: You can safely disregard the gaslighting in @12. Crime is soaring and our public schools are overrun with teachers who what to teach sociology and human sexuality to toddlers according to their political dispositions - parents be damned.

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That said, @Dogis, as we know senators rarely provide solutions on the local level, other than winning appropriations for the state through legislation.

Pouty Patty, regrettably, still is the best qualified.

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“…teach sociology and human sexuality to toddlers…”

The primary function of school for toddlers is to socialize them, and teachers should answer students’ questions in age-appropriate manners, so I’m not sure what you’re complaining about. I’ll wait until you provide some urls to sources containing examples of “teachers who what [sic] to teach sociology and human sexuality to toddlers,” BWAHAHAHAHAHA…

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@14: Dial up LibsOfTikTok. Given your myopic stance, I already expect your return volley that's it's all staged.

The personal lives and aspirations of teachers' is tangential to being a good professional while at the same time being warm and supportive to all kids no matter who they are or their background. Work with parents for the optimal outcomes for all.

Oh, but that's not good enough for the far-left.

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@16: That's not the form of the word I was talking about, tensor.

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Dogis, crime is definitely up in Seattle, but the general rate of crime was higher in the 1970s - 80’s, when Seattle was a much smaller city. Talking about “runaway crime” is foolish.

Don’t believe me? Check the Seattle Times

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/seattle-continues-to-go-backward-on-crime-as-much-as-30-years-back/

And no, people are not abandoning Seattle Public Schools in record numbers. That happened when Seattle started bussing students in the 1970’s. Did you ever wonder why Seattle has so many private schools? Look into their history, and you’ll find many of them were started at about that time. That was also an era when when we had a second suburban boom (in part because of crime! In part because of the fear of “race mixing”, although we don’t say that in polite society).

Question: Are the failings in math unique to public schools, or are private schools held to the same standard? Also, how many of the students are in public school because the private schools wouldn’t take them?

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@20: As much as you'd like it to, crime stats of the 80s have no effect on how people are feeling about crime, and votes are motivated by feelings rather than spreadsheets.

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@21: Predicted. I disagree with their politics but intellectual honesty requires viewing their material. You have to answer that question first if you have any clout saying to me: "Truly toxic levels of self-loathing".

Are you smart enough to know that you have to be accountable for the truth, no matter how unpleasant the packaging?

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@23: Calm down. You already said something that you're already regretting.

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Raindrop dear, that’s the problem with you “conservatives”: you confuse your feelings with facts, and then bore the hell out of normal people by constantly talking about your feelings.

You’re irrational and emotion-based. That, and your selfishness and tendency towards dishonesty, make you people unfit for leadership.

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Logically speaking of course, you do realize that you're wasting as much time on Slog as I am, and hence I can equally deem you a troll as much as you deem me a troll. I have no idea if you're lonely or not, and you likewise with me.

And so, your only recourse is to unravel rather than address the issues.

Why do think parents are so mad these days blip? Do you know any?

I do. Parents are very busy people. So it takes a lot to get them to take time out of their day. School board meets have typically been boring as no galvanizing issues have made them mad enough to attend them until recently.

No, I don't agree with parents who object to keeping trans kids safe or providing referrals on a case-by-case basis. That's common sense. But the classroom is not a room of political activism when it collides with parents. Whether the parents are Rs or Ds.

I repeat: Are you smart enough to know that you have to be accountable for the truth, no matter how unpleasant the packaging?

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@27: Now you're making up quotes. Shameful.

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@28: People vote their feelings Catalina. That's why Donald won over Hillary, W' over Al, Ronnie over Jimmy, and several other examples. Sorry you find it boring.

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@32 - No, those are not their URLs.
@31 - Those are not the scenarios that cause heated school board meetings.

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@19: No, you bizarrely claimed toddlers were being instructed in “sociology,” which is a science, and therefore beyond the ability of toddlers to learn. So I erred on the side of kindness, and assumed you meant they were being taught to socialize. So I guess you’re still insisting teachers are wasting everyone’s time by instructing toddlers in subjects everyone knows toddlers cannot possibly understand?

Also, thanks for validating my note about you and sources for your bizarre claims.

“Why do think parents are so mad these days blip?”

I’m a parent, and the only person who currently has my ire is you, for making bizarre claims about primary education. If my child is being taught, in an age-appropriate manner, about human sexuality at school, then his school is even better than it already appears to be, and I am grateful.

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@37: If your definition of age-appropriate is agreed with other parents, fine. If not, then they have the right to take it up before the school board without being ostracized and their view respected. They should give you that courtesy as well.

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Thank your for your civility as well, Dogis dear,

For what it’s worth, I have lived in my current home for seventeen years with never a problem. My first house, however, which was only a block away, was broken into three times in five years, and SPD never showed up back then either.

( I learned when I lived in Pike/Pine in the rough days, I had to tell 911 that somebody had at least a knife to get them to respond)

My point is that there are many reasons for the rise in crime, but it’s not like we haven’t been here before. Let’s unclench and look at this with a minimum of hysterics.

As for bussing, I don’t know that it was “terrible” for Seattle, but it wasn’t the citizenry’s finest moment. Not as bad as Boston, but bad enough.

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Anthropromise Me Dear, do you understand how the population is dispersed in WA State?

The rural yokels, who are the most heavily dependent on liberal largess, will vote for anything with an R next to it, but those are the parts of the state where there are more deers than people (and it should be noted, they are about 30% Democratic).

The productive and populated parts of the state - the parts of the state that bankroll the yokels - will - God willing - give Tiffany the Culp treatment.

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@41: With all due respect, growing food is productive.

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Growing food thanks to FDR’s new deal, Raindrop dear. Grand Coulee ain’t just a hydro plant. But I think a lot of them are cooking meth, not growing food.

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Dogis dear, cutting-and-pasting is on very poor taste.

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@38: Yes, parents have some input into school-curriculum decisions. @13, you claimed parental input is ignored. We are all still awaiting some examples to support that, or any of the other bizarre claims you made at @13.

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@46: No, parents have key input into school-curriculum decisions.

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@47: No, they don’t, not at any school, public or private. School is for the children, not for the parents.

And, once again, that’s not the issue here. Have you any examples of schools teaching toddlers “sociology”?

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False, they do. But here you go TENSORna. While it is troubling when a child's stated identity is not affirmed by the parents, do we really want to have them criminally charged if they don't?

My dad did not affirm my being gay at first, but I didn't want CPS going after him. Good F'ing Lord people, get a grip. The far left is as crazy horrible as MAGA these days.

https://wjla.com/news/crisis-in-the-classroom/lgbtq-students-parents-schools-education-child-protective-services-felony-glenn-youngkin-jason-miyares-lesbian-gay-transgender-charges-virginia-sexual-orientation-gender-identity

If you want the the government to have this much power, you're really too far gone in my book.

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Anthropromise Me Dear, if we are collectively dumb enough to elect a person with no experience and simple-minded "positions" that run counter to the values of this state, based on bad hairdo or just some nebulous sense of dislike, so be it. We'll get what we deserve. At least we'll still have Cantwell, who will eat a nothing like Tiffany Smiley for breakfast.

But I don't share your opinion on the election. As you may or may not know, I work in Seattle, but have a house in Eastern Washington (in Grant County, the 11th most populous county in WA with a population of about 95k, which is roughly the population of Seattle ZIP Codes 98144 and 98122). I see the usual Tiffany Signs on the usual agricultural welfare welfare installations, but a lot more Murray signs than I would have expected. In the course of my work, which takes me from N 205th Street to S 165th Street, I don't see many Murray or Smiley signs. I think the default in the Puget Sound will be Murray.

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One other thing - in our little town in E Washington, the woman who owns the hardware store and the woman who owns the beauty parlor both told me - out of nowhere - that they are not voting for ANYONE who is not expressly pro-choice. Ancetodal for sure, but I'm never had anyone say anything like that to me over there. The default is Republican. (I partly blame the WA State Democrats for that, but that's another story)

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We'll see how well Murray survives her breakfast at Tiffany's.

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Dogis, did you just slip, fall, and hit your widdle Golden wetweever head on a rock? Or did you just move in with Elmer? You're new here, aren't you? Lemme guess--from an uneducated red state of confusion? You don't need to be so glaringly obvious. Both of you crawl back into your MAGAt hole and stay there.

Fuck you, Trump ho Tiffany Smiley! Roast in hell and take MAGA fuckwad Joe Kent with you!

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Note how @55 and @54 pile on without addressing content that's been discussed on this thread. They are terrified of my words but don't want to admit so and only can volley insults in their frustration.

Just look how grizelda didn't even acknowledge Dogis's open mindedness in @36 - just pounces on her anyway because she dared to express support in @11.

P.S. to blip: The link to the WJLA in @49 was in a tweet from LibsOfTikTok. They're odious yes, but that's how news gets around.

I slept so well last night!

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@49: If you’d read the article you cited, then you should have noted this law didn’t originate in a vacuum.

First, teenage students at public schools across Virginia had confided in their school counselors about gender identity. The students did this with the understanding these counseling sessions were private.

Second, the Republican governor of Virginia, in strict accordance with our very own divine Mrs. Catalina Vel-DuRay’s oft-stated observation, “Republicans are horrible people,” retroactively and without consent revoked the students’ privacy rights. Schools are now free to reveal these students’ gender identities — and maybe even be required to “out” these students to their families.

This wholesale violation of privacy and trust has caused huge student protests, and the legislature has proposed a law to protect students from their own families in case the governor succeeds in outing these students.

No sane person wants this situation, but the Republican governor of Virginia has intentionally caused it. Please go complain to him.

Meanwhile, any word on toddlers taking Sociology 101?

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Seattle urbanite dear, I especially like her reference "The hometown store" (or whatever she called Starbucks). That's like calling Amazon "The hometown department store", or Microsoft "Our local computer place"

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@58: Yes no sane person wants the situation of outing of students but no sane person wants this legislation. So wrong on so many levels. Fortunately, rational minds prevail (including Virginia democrats). From the article:

The Richmond Times-Dispatch reports House Minority Leader Don Scott Jr., D-Portsmouth, said Friday that Del. Guzman's proposal would be "dead on arrival" in the next General Assembly session if it is introduced.

No need to complain to Governor Youngkin. He'd veto it.


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