The Stranger's own reporting on Denny Blaine showed there have been problems there for years: "... voyeurs and pervs seem to have colonized Denny Blaine, so wear shoes if you don't want to get sperm between your toes." (https://www.thestranger.com/horrors/2019/07/22/40831261/welcome-to-summer-dont-drink-the-water) Now that the Chief has helpfully reminded the SPD that nudity is legal in Seattle, the problems recently reported by beachgoers with cops at the park should end. If they don't, then the City Council should start asking just how hard Mayor Harrell leaned on the SPD, on behalf of his rich friend who lives near the park.

(Also, neither Denny Blaine Park, nor any other park in Seattle, has a "queer" beach, because Seattle doesn't discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation; there's no "nude" beach in Seattle, either, because nudity is legal everywhere in Seattle.)

It really wasn’t hard to find out it was Stuart Sloan. In my case, I just looked at the King County Parcel Viewer to see which homes had direct views of the beach, and there he was.

Despite The Stranger’s cartoonish narrative, Sloan’s not all bad. He and his wife Molly gave Fred Hutch 78 million for an advanced oncology center. That’s the biggest donation in the institute’s history.

My biggest gripe with him is inflicting the new University Village on us.

Also, anyone who is shocked that money=access in city government needs to get out more. It’s been that way since the Denny Party landed at Alki.

But I’ll also say that Seattle is probably a bit cleaner in that regard than lots of other cities.

Which is correct?

A:
"... at a queer nude beach on Sunday and kicked out a trans woman who refused to get dressed?"

B:
"... at a nude beach on Sunday and kicked out a woman who refused to get dressed?"

@4 Personally, I consider it a nude beach. I'm gay but that's not the reason I go there. I go there to be naked in the sun and I honestly have no idea what the sexuality is of anyone else there, nor do I care.

I'd also argue that the gender or sexuality of the person who got kicked out doesn't matter in this case either. I'd say they were "a nude person who refused to get dressed."

A guy named "Stuart Sloan" being a rich asshole is pretty much nominative determinism.

@6: What if it was Doug Sloan?

Tenny you’re an idiot.

Any place or thing is bound to have something shitty happen at some point or another, it’s life. You can’t take an issue that happened in the past but is not indicative of the norm and say “it’s been happening for years”. That is an idiotic approach.

This would be like saying, well ya Germany has been killing Jews and gays for years, then referencing an article about the holocaust. That might sound like an extreme example but it’s literally what you did in your comment.

Stop being a shitty person and get over yourself.

Catalina, just being you give a ton of money to a good cause does not mean you’re a good person.

That kind of money is a drop in the bucket to many of these rich people and likely also helps them in the long run with taxes and shit when they donate those amounts. Giving doesn’t mean shit, look at what someone does.

@8, @9: Start with name-calling, and end with claiming a charitable donation simply doesn't matter, because giving somehow can't mean doing -- even when the gift is a huge amount of money for medical research. (And yet, you still believe yourself qualified to criticize others. Because of course you do!)

Meanwhile, here are just a few of the many important questions you've miserably failed to ask about the Stranger's 'coverage' of Denny Blaine Park:

Why does the Stranger persistently ignore its own previous reporting on the condition of Denny Blaine Park?

Why does the Stranger constantly claim the beach at Denny Blaine Park is a "nude Beach," when nudity is legal everywhere in Seattle?

Why does the Stranger constantly claim the beach at Denny Blaine Park is a "queer beach," when, again, queers can use any beach (and historically, have congregated elsewhere)?

Why has the Stranger insinuated, without providing any supporting evidence, that Stuart Sloan's actual goal is to drive queer persons out of Denny Blaine Park?

Those are just for starters. After they've kicked your ass long enough, I'll give you the answers. (I warn you in advance, they're not pretty.)

Bmelon dear, I never said he was a good person. I disagree with his position on the park, but that doesn't mean that I hate him, or think everything about him is bad. After all, the only thing I know about him is that he started QFC and his in-laws were Sam and Althea Stroum, the Seattle Philanthropists who owned Shuck's Auto Supply and Pay 'n Pak.

I trust that if you are unfortunate enough to be stricken with cancer (and I sincerely hope that doesn't happen), you will refuse to go to Fred Hutch, because they accepted a donation from the Sloans, and you feel that Stuart and Molly Sloan only donated that money for tax purposes.

Principles are principles, after all.

Tenny, you posted an article fro 6 years ago by someone who has not worked there for years. The Stranger does not need to reference every single they have posted ever, that's ridiculous.

@11: A superb reply. Well done.

Denny Blaine is considered a queer beach by those who frequent it, who a large portion are queer. Other people who go there may not be queer and don't consider it a queer beach themselves maybe but that does not negate the fact that a large amount of people who go there frequently are queer and consider it to be - additionally they are not being exclusive about it either.

Consider the CD. It is known as a Black neighborhood. Do other people live there that are not Black and have no connection to the Black community and therefore to them it is just their neighborhood? Yes. But this does not mean that it can't be called a Black neighborhood.

Nudity is legal everywhere in Seattle. Denny Blaine Park has a beach. Due to its seclusion and therefore feeling of safety, it is the most common beach to be nude at in Seattle. Therefore, most people consider a nude beach. It's not the Stranger deeming it so, it is the overall community of Seattle.

This is a daily quick news & culture blog. You are not only demanding too much of it but also are trolling for troll's-sake. Get a life and move on.

Catalina,

you said he is not all bad and then used his donation as your evidence. My comment was that doesn't mean shit about being a good person when very rich people donate money. Nor did I say that I don't support Fred Hutch because they took his money - I don't care who they got it from or whether the guy is good or bad - I was in no way declaring a principle on the issue. I simply said that giving money doesn't make you a good person, especially for the rich.

@14: "queer" has become such a malleable (and hence meaningless) term that it no longer is exclusively homosexual. Straights and trans can be "queer" too.

"queer" is a term used by adolescent girls who are overweight and have not yet captured a boyfriend.

@12: Since you missed it again, the Stranger persistently ignores its own previous reporting because that reporting supports the park's neighbors. Those neighbors do not want disgustingly lawless behaviors to remain at (or return to) the park. The Stranger wants to portray the park's neighbors not as persons who simply want the park usable by all, but as anti-gay, prudish NIMBYs, who want to prevent lawful uses of the park. So, the Stranger's own previous reporting must go down the Memory Hole, so that it cannot support the neighbors' concerns about behavior which may still be happening.

No tenny I did not. If you read your article mentioned, it’s a single sentence about Denny Blaine in an article about water pollution.

You clearly googled or searched within the slog for “Denny Blaine” and looked through the results for negative content to then reference bc you have no life. Tell me that’s not true, how do else would you have a 6 year old article at the ready.

As the actual story states, the people who frequent the beach are a community and protect it, so any issues happening in 2019 supposedly have been addressed. Does some outsider issues still happen? Yes that’s life. And again the community deals with it. You’re not winning this you fucking troll.

feebs, if you can’t understand it, just ignore it.

@20: 'You clearly googled or searched within the slog for “Denny Blaine” and looked through the results for negative content to then reference bc you have no life.'

You're giving me far too much credit. I believe commenter hbb was the first to notice that story:

'Here's how the Stranger used to characterize Denny Blaine:

"voyeurs and pervs seem to have colonized Denny Blaine, so wear shoes if you don't want to get sperm between your toes"

'When did this morph into merely "enjoying a legally protected right to nudity?"

'*https://www.thestranger.com/horrors/2019/07/22/40831261/welcome-to-summer-dont-drink-the-water'

(https://www.thestranger.com/news/2024/07/26/79620996/the-photos-denny-blaine-donor-stuart-sloan-sent-to-seattle-mayor-bruce-harrell/comments/23)

"Tell me that’s not true, how do else would you have a 6 year old article at the ready."

Because the Stranger has been flogging this "issue" since at least 2023, and so there have been many headline posts and discussion threads about it here -- one of which contained hbb's comment, above. Please do try to keep up.

"... Denny Blaine in an article about water pollution."

If you're trying to say the condition of the park wasn't anything for neighbors to have concerns about, then that's a really strange way to make your point, but you just gotta do you, I guess.

"...any issues happening in 2019 supposedly have been addressed."

That's actually the point the people who live near the park have disputed. As the Stranger's "journalism" consists of taking one side's word as gospel truth, and the "community" of persons is that side in this never-ending, vitally-important story, the Stranger simply reports their assertions as fact. In service of that "fact," the Stranger has repeatedly ignored its own previous reporting on the story, which could have told you something about whether to believe that assertion or not. But it didn't. Again, you just gotta do you:

"You’re not winning this you fucking troll."

You're not racking up much in the way of valid statements here, are you?

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