We are still shocked that Ezra Klein (of the NYT and the Ezra Klein Show) agreed to come on our smutty little podcast.

They talked about Ezraā€™s time as a monogamous straight man embedded in San Fransiscoā€™s polyamorous culture. They compare the current NYC hipster version of the poly scene to San Fransiscoā€™s meld of tech bros and hippies. And they talk about how the nuclear family is failing as a functional support system. Some of this great convo is on the Micro, and the whole thing is on the Magnum. Tuck in.

Also on this weekā€™s show: When a man and his boyfriend go to the gym in their conservative town, he notices that they both ā€œbutch upā€ and quit acting like a couple. How can they learn to act naturally in scary straight spaces?

And, just because you openly embrace ethical nonmonogamy doesnā€™t mean you should talk about all your other girlfriends on the first date, right?