How speaker Mike Johnson will look when he listens for yes votes from Democrats WIN MCNAMEE / GETTY

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“Flea” the Gaza hospital? Like the blood sucking bug you find on yer dog?

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Re: March for Israel. The people who support the Palestinian genocide are not protesting anti-semitism, they're protesting anti-zionism. The two are conflated in their minds. None of the pro-Zionists have any issue with openly white supremacist "Christians" making pilgrimages to their Holy Land; there was even discussion about changing Holocaust Remembrance Day to "Israel Day" a few years back! Slog AM gives the protesters too much credit, methinks...

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I wonder how much the Mayor is being paid by the gunshot locator company since he seems so insistent on buying it, even when the evidence is against it.

When is his term of office up, again? Hopefully, Seattle chooses a smarter mayor next time. Or, at least, a more ethical one.

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An Ethnostate with 2 million Arab citizens.

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So no you're just sprinkling anti-Biden memes you heard on TikTok into your "news coverage?" Cool, cool, can't see any possible downside to that habit.

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Hannah only moved here two years ago, right? She's been crying about how Seattle's voters go against her Marxist tendencies. Might be time to find a new city whose voters better match up with her views.

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@5: Now now now, comparing the lives of Arab Israelis (Israel’s largest minority, btw) to those of Palestinian Arabs who rejected the UN’s 1948 two-state solution could lead you dangerously toward doubleplus wrongthink concerning the Stranger’s position on the current crisis.

Think hard and carefully, comrade!

;-)

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@6: we're at a 1/2 percent of the Gaza population killed, a 10:1 retaliation for 10/7 ratio.

it's not genocide, but it's definitely not a "surgical" operation the IDF is conducting. Gaza City is going to be uninhabitable.

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10:1 ratio for 10/7 retaliation!

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I don't know why the "Shotspotter" system is so controversial. How is it a bad thing if first responders have near real time location data when somebody shoots a gun in the city? Minneapolis has had the system for like 15 years now. It works, and none of the dystopian predictions of the critics have materialized. Here is an interactive map of the shots fired in Minnie:

https://www.minneapolismn.gov/resident-services/public-safety/police-public-safety/crime-maps-dashboards/shots-fired-map/

Its not some sort of panacea, and its reasonable to ask how much money that data is worth, but to be against even the principle of it just seems weird. Personally, I hope the city funds it, and ultimately pairs it with cameras to snap photos of the assholes shooting their guns in the city.

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@11, the ratio for children is even more skewed. Numbers are fuzzy, but the organization Defense of Children International says that 4,237 Palestinian children have been killed since October 7 (as of November 7, so likely an undercount). According to The Atlantic, of the 1,400 Israelis brutally killed on October 7, "at least" 30 were children, so also probably an undercount. These imperfect data show a 141:1 ratio for October 7 retaliation.

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@14: what degree of "surgical" precision do I think is possible? i don't think i specified.

frankly, i'm amazed it's only 0.5% killed. the bombing is not indiscriminate, but i wish it hadn't been needed, or could have been a bit more discriminate.

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Genocide. Please. What a delightful little high school newspaper this is.

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“A week ago today we endured a very tragic election. Gone are the days of incremental progressivism on Seattle City Council. Here are the days of a bunch of Sara Nelson wannabes leading our City.”

Yes, Donald Trump is sitting in Mar-A-Lago manically laughing like Emperor Palaptine saying “And now my takeover of Seattle is complete!”

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Accusing Biden of being complicit in a genocide is just lazy and ignorant. I don't like standing up for the old man but what the hell is wrong with you? Did you just learn about Gaza? Do you have any idea what you are talking about? Genocide memes. REALLY? There's a 4 hour break every day so people can get out of Gaza. Biden did that. If we end up with Trump again, DO NOT ASK WHY.

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@22: Garb, no one has denied this is a needless humanitarian disaster, as heavy warfare in urban areas always will be, especially against an enemy which aggressively hides behind civilians. We object to abuse of the word “genocide,” simply because that’s not what’s happening here.

During WWII, the United States bombed industrial cities in Germany and Japan, sometimes killing thousands of civilians in a single day. But the United States had no genocidal intent, and those countries were rebuilt — with American money! — a long time ago. They’ve been solid Allies with the US ever since.

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@23: I urge you to read the Hamas Covenant. It's available online. After you've read it, ask yourself why Israel, having just experienced the events of 10/7 carried out by that very group, might be reluctant to enter into negotiations with them?

(Hint: aside from laying out many other fascinating positions which I'm sure you will be delighted to read all about, it contains explicit injunctions against negotiation.)

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@34: It’s apparently ok with Hamas, which has engineered this entire situation. Hamas will gladly fight right down to the last premature Palestinian baby.

When will the Stranger, and sympathetic commenters here, understand that Hamas is the root of the current humanitarian disaster, and demand Iran and Qatar stop funding it? I mean, it’s an organization dedicated to terrorism, in the service of genocide, in the name of hard-right reactionary religious extremism. How difficult could it possibly be to denounce such a group? With at least as much fervor as the Stranger has poured into abuse of the word “genocide” here?

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@22 No what's funny is the same people who abuse the word facism are also the ones abusing the word genocide. It's almost as if you purposely abuse language because you are unable to make a valid argument without going to extremes.

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@43: “My call for restraint is not one-sided, but my tax dollars fund the bombs for the IDF and not the rockets fired from Hamas.”

First, your calls for restraint have, at least here at the Stranger, been almost entirely one-sided.

Second, I wasn’t aware we American citizens needed to buy a privilege of speaking out against terrorism. Again, where are the calls to defund Hamas? Where are the protests outside the banks which funnel the money from Iran and Qatar (and possibly other places) to fund terrorists?

“…the IDF has dropped 6000 bombs in the first month which is more than the US dropped on Afghanistan in a year,”

As you have yet to explain the connection between those two wars, I’ll note the US sent more than three hundred of its then-largest bombers over Tokyo in one night in August 1945; tens of thousands of civilians died as a result, many of them children burnt alive in their own beds. Does this make the US guilty of genocide against the Japanese? Should the US have shown restraint at that time?

“Hamas didn't become a terrorist and extremist group in a bubble,”

That’s true. In addition to copious financial support from Iran and Qatar, what we now call the Middle East has been a founding home to various organizations of violent religious fanatics for over 3,500 years.

“…Israel's neighbors into starting a war against it.”

While there may be some merit to that idea, Israel’s neighbors started a war against it on the very first day of Israel’s existence, rejecting the UN’s plan for a two-state solution (which Israel had accepted). So perhaps the causal links you’re asserting won’t mean as much there.

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@45- of course. The Proud Boys have been confined to a tiny plot of ground, not allowed to travel or earn a living, and given no say in their government. It’s exactly the same. I note this is what SHOULD happen to most of them, said plot of ground being a prison, but it’s nowhere near the reality.

@1-its like when Hannah gets “tick”ed off a something Biden did.

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"Biden, Biden, you can't hide. We charge you with genocide".
Jesus wept--this is so close to "LBJ, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?"
That we, as a nation haven't learned shit about the devastation and crippling costs of war--especially in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan--is inexcusable.

David DePape and his ilk should get cornholed in the Federal Pigpen alongside his buddy, the Orange Turd.
I hope Nancy and Paul Pelosi sue the shit out of DePape and that lowlife piece of shit gets life imprisonment.

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More to the point Auntie, is that those protesters inadvertently gave us Nixon - the candidate who secretly negotiated to extend the war in Vietnam to make LBJ and Humphey look innefectual. Reagan did much the same thing with Iran.

Republicans are horrible people.


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