In fairness, religious cults forcing girls and young women into exploitive polygynous relationships in all likelihood causes more social harm than is caused by not allowing marriage between consenting poycules. Admittedly a difficult situation, the same legal framework that facilitates the protection of one group (coerced wives) discriminates against another (polys).
@2, A metal detector, unless it has armed guards, isn't going to stop anyone from advancing 100 feet into a school to shoot, stab, or club their specific homicide target to death.
@4 it would have prevented this shooting. Maybe make some helpful suggestions instead of tearing apart ideas floated by a grieving community. My kids are pretty freaked out that someone was shot eight times in a school hallway.
@5, It would not have. The student knew there were going to be witnesses and video. He could blow through the metal detector and shoot before he could be caught. Its 5 seconds to cover 100 feet and the student gets a head start on a bored security guard lulled to sleep by a bunch of false positives per hour. The shooter likely would still have shot hos victim. The security guard might have gotten shots off after the fact.
It could deter other students from casually bringing weapons in to school. But a determined attacker like this one, nope.
@8, No fantasies. Just a healthy respect for human agency and the capacity of others to use that agency in ways that are f'd up.
If humans truely have agency, it will be exercised in all manner to it's fullest extreme from time to time, or its not real agency. That means we can't prevent all tragedy.
This was someone who allegedly committed premeditated a murder, hence the 1st degree murder charge. He did it publicly. He was prepared to get caught. That kind of assassin is nearly unstoppable.
The alleged murderer likely hadn't plotted this for months, but once he chose that this was what he was going to do, he was going to be damn near impossible to stop.
I just knew pro-Trumpist neofascist MAGAt and RWNJ Joe Kent would pull a deranged Loren Culp-like stunt like this. I'm estimating that his next move will be an insurrectionist attack on the government somewhere, either in Olympia or in D.C. RepubliKKKans are horrible excuses for people, and they're sore losers.
Eat my shit, Joe, choke on it, and drop dead already. It's over. You LOST. Get the fuck OVER it already.
And, if legalized, would polys get to pile on an to a "family" health insurance plan? Would each be liable for any other's debts, litigation, or crimes?
Its quite astonishing actually. For a swam of six polys, the number lawsuits, STD infections, broken hearts, and Christmas gifts would be a mater of factorial:
@7 right? It’s creepy the vested interest some folks have in letting gun violence in schools continue. A metal detector isn’t trying to repeal the second amendment, I honestly don’t get the mental gymnastics in favor of maintaining the grisly status quo. Denial is a coping mechanism I guess.
By the way, does the Stranger realize Perez is a pro-2A Democrat? Is the far-left going to acknowledge that the only way you can win in deep red or lean-red districts is via moderate candidates? The Sawants and AOCs of the world stand no change in WA-3. Perez knew how to win in that district by not being a far-left candidate.
"But I’d very much like to find that National Enquirer article"
Many years ago, when our family would go through tons of newspapers, we would occasionally take the old newspapers to a collection shed on the other side of town. It was a place to drop of papers for free and I'm sure the owner then made a little money by selling them to the next place in the recycling chain.
One of the best parts was being able to briefly go through the papers that had been dumped there by others (they were all in piles, not just thrown in). It was always great to encounter copies of National Enquirer or Star, as that was crazy stupid stuff that my parents would never have in the house. I would grab a bunch of them, take them home, be amused by all the content, and then eventually take them back on our next trip to the shed. Nowadays I wish I had saved some of those issues.
Glad the voting initiative is winning, however I had hoped approval voting would have been the preferred route as it’s simpler for people to understand. There’s going to be a lot of complications with ranked choice ballots.
@14 Scottie Soft and Brown: Rabid former Green Beret, RWNJ, and shit-spewing pro-Trumpist sock puppet Joe Kent is the one who is seriously unhinged, you pathetically clueless MAGA turd. Crawl back into the Orange Turd's buttcrack and rot there, Little Mr. Sore Loser. And try not to fall in when you flush. Puget Sound has more than enough toxic waste already.
Hooray for the death of Cooke Aqua Net Pens! "Aquaculture" from Day One was nothing but profiteering outsider propagandic bullshit, out to destroy the environment and native species of local salmon for "record profits". I grew up five miles outside of La Conner where pens in Skagit Bay have been an eyesore for over 35 years. They weren't securely installed, either. One good windstorm and the pens would come loose, drifting halfway out toward Puget Sound. I know a lot of Swinomish tribal members who must be clicking heels that those floating monstrosities are to be permanently removed by order of State Commissioner of Public Lands, Hilary Franz.
Thank you and bless you, Commissioner Franz, for making the wise choice, especially when our native salmon populations are near extinction.
In fairness, religious cults forcing girls and young women into exploitive polygynous relationships in all likelihood causes more social harm than is caused by not allowing marriage between consenting poycules. Admittedly a difficult situation, the same legal framework that facilitates the protection of one group (coerced wives) discriminates against another (polys).
If anything tangible comes from the kids walkout, it will be metal detectors.
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@2, A metal detector, unless it has armed guards, isn't going to stop anyone from advancing 100 feet into a school to shoot, stab, or club their specific homicide target to death.
@4 it would have prevented this shooting. Maybe make some helpful suggestions instead of tearing apart ideas floated by a grieving community. My kids are pretty freaked out that someone was shot eight times in a school hallway.
@5, It would not have. The student knew there were going to be witnesses and video. He could blow through the metal detector and shoot before he could be caught. Its 5 seconds to cover 100 feet and the student gets a head start on a bored security guard lulled to sleep by a bunch of false positives per hour. The shooter likely would still have shot hos victim. The security guard might have gotten shots off after the fact.
It could deter other students from casually bringing weapons in to school. But a determined attacker like this one, nope.
@6 You sound like you think about this a lot. A. Lot. Fantasy much?
@8, No fantasies. Just a healthy respect for human agency and the capacity of others to use that agency in ways that are f'd up.
If humans truely have agency, it will be exercised in all manner to it's fullest extreme from time to time, or its not real agency. That means we can't prevent all tragedy.
This was someone who allegedly committed premeditated a murder, hence the 1st degree murder charge. He did it publicly. He was prepared to get caught. That kind of assassin is nearly unstoppable.
The alleged murderer likely hadn't plotted this for months, but once he chose that this was what he was going to do, he was going to be damn near impossible to stop.
We can't prevent all tragedy.
I just knew pro-Trumpist neofascist MAGAt and RWNJ Joe Kent would pull a deranged Loren Culp-like stunt like this. I'm estimating that his next move will be an insurrectionist attack on the government somewhere, either in Olympia or in D.C. RepubliKKKans are horrible excuses for people, and they're sore losers.
Eat my shit, Joe, choke on it, and drop dead already. It's over. You LOST. Get the fuck OVER it already.
I have nothing against the concept, but "Polycule" is cursed. The term tickles my nausea.
@1: Very good point.
And, if legalized, would polys get to pile on an to a "family" health insurance plan? Would each be liable for any other's debts, litigation, or crimes?
Its quite astonishing actually. For a swam of six polys, the number lawsuits, STD infections, broken hearts, and Christmas gifts would be a mater of factorial:
6! = 6 × 5 × 4 × 3 × 2 × 1 = 720
@7 right? It’s creepy the vested interest some folks have in letting gun violence in schools continue. A metal detector isn’t trying to repeal the second amendment, I honestly don’t get the mental gymnastics in favor of maintaining the grisly status quo. Denial is a coping mechanism I guess.
@10 You are seriously unhinged.
By the way, does the Stranger realize Perez is a pro-2A Democrat? Is the far-left going to acknowledge that the only way you can win in deep red or lean-red districts is via moderate candidates? The Sawants and AOCs of the world stand no change in WA-3. Perez knew how to win in that district by not being a far-left candidate.
"But I’d very much like to find that National Enquirer article"
Many years ago, when our family would go through tons of newspapers, we would occasionally take the old newspapers to a collection shed on the other side of town. It was a place to drop of papers for free and I'm sure the owner then made a little money by selling them to the next place in the recycling chain.
One of the best parts was being able to briefly go through the papers that had been dumped there by others (they were all in piles, not just thrown in). It was always great to encounter copies of National Enquirer or Star, as that was crazy stupid stuff that my parents would never have in the house. I would grab a bunch of them, take them home, be amused by all the content, and then eventually take them back on our next trip to the shed. Nowadays I wish I had saved some of those issues.
@12 thank god someone is looking out for the insurance companies!
Glad the voting initiative is winning, however I had hoped approval voting would have been the preferred route as it’s simpler for people to understand. There’s going to be a lot of complications with ranked choice ballots.
@14 Scottie Soft and Brown: Rabid former Green Beret, RWNJ, and shit-spewing pro-Trumpist sock puppet Joe Kent is the one who is seriously unhinged, you pathetically clueless MAGA turd. Crawl back into the Orange Turd's buttcrack and rot there, Little Mr. Sore Loser. And try not to fall in when you flush. Puget Sound has more than enough toxic waste already.
Hooray for the death of Cooke Aqua Net Pens! "Aquaculture" from Day One was nothing but profiteering outsider propagandic bullshit, out to destroy the environment and native species of local salmon for "record profits". I grew up five miles outside of La Conner where pens in Skagit Bay have been an eyesore for over 35 years. They weren't securely installed, either. One good windstorm and the pens would come loose, drifting halfway out toward Puget Sound. I know a lot of Swinomish tribal members who must be clicking heels that those floating monstrosities are to be permanently removed by order of State Commissioner of Public Lands, Hilary Franz.
Thank you and bless you, Commissioner Franz, for making the wise choice, especially when our native salmon populations are near extinction.