Maybe he and/or the police should go over and visit the neighbor?… Just something odd about the way the story is reported....somebody writes some fucked up shit on his house and the guy's not arrested by the police?
So, it's technically not vandalism, but that doesn't necessarily make it any less of a hate crime, since clearly the fence is visible to anyone walking past. Sorry you have to see that.
You've got it all wrong. It's not a hate crime. He was just leaving himself a note. Apparently every time he takes out the trash he gets an incredible craving for cock.
Being that it was his own fence, it's probably not a crime, and he likely feels he is doing no more than expressing his personal convictions, the same way the flags represent those of Schaffer and Co. Clearly ignorant, but probably not criminal.
Seriously? This isn't a hate crime if it's his own fence. There's nothing wrong with him expressing his stupid bullshit religious beliefs on his own property, for fuck's sake. How is it a hate crime if it's NOT EVEN A FUCKING CRIME??? This is such hypocritical bullshit. Anyone who calls this a hate crime is just as much a bigot as the alleged criminal.
@16 - I can see this now: a dog barks in the background. A man in a bathrobe and slippers running down his driveway, struggling with a heavy trashcan, mumbling a mantra of "I like women. I like women. I like women. I don't like dick. I don't want to suck any of those big, sweet, juicy dicks..."
Sets the can down at the end of the drive. Looks around for people watching, produces a baseball from his pocket then tosses it over the fence as if by accident. Composes himself. Marches to the neighbor's house to ask for his ball back.
@18 - Bigotry comes in many forms, but I don't think it means what you think it means.
@12 Carve yourself some own sayings on your own fence, cherry picking from verse as you see fit. "Love thy neighbor" is an easy one that comes to mind. Don't forget the passage reference.
And... you even one up it a bit. Have a woodworker/carpenter bud do it in nice block letters with a router, and bedazzle the writing with paint or whatever. If I was closer, I'd be happy to stop by with my Bosch.
In that case, I most sincerely hope your neighbor scratches/scrawls/spray paints "Donald Ward (or whatever your real name is) is a racist, homophobic piece of shit" somewhere on their property where you'll have no choice but to see it every single fucking day.
@18: may be his right, but it ain't neighborly. it's straight up intimidation. i'd go ask him what his intent was. also i would prepare to get shot or stabbed, as if i lived next door to you.
Obviously the existence of bibles and biblical notation is not intimidation or a hate crime (even though basically all of them at some point tell you to conquer or kill other people), and you of course have the right to carve biblical notations into your own property.
But the choice of this quote and the intended audience is pretty clearly one of intimidation. But it is also not a direct threat, and also simply a notation from one of the most ubiquitous and widely read books in western canon.
It's tacky and trashy (really, anything with a reference to the bible is tacky and trashy), passive-aggressive, and certainly not neighborly, but I don't see any crime here. Yes, the statement calls for death, in all the various translations, but it is not directed to the residents, per se. It's a symptom of our violence-centric, Bible-addled society.
With that said, I don't blame Shaffer for contacting the police. It's good to get this on their radar.
Where are our pro-gay anti-sharia buddies when we need them!
I am not a lawyer but I don't think this is going to have the elements of WA malicious harassment. https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?…
Not sure if there's another law to charge under.
Which is why responding by saying "wow, what an asshole move" is appropriate and necessary.
I sure hope that neighbor doesn't eat shellfish or wear clothing made from mixed fibers, because otherwise that same Book of Leviticus says he's heading straight to Hell just like his queer neighbors.
Ignore it. The fool is trying to offend, anger, insult, ridicule, defame, etc. If you just ignore it and go about your business (after all he defaced his own fence - what an idiot) that's punishment enough since whatever effect he hoped to achieve won't be. Sometimes with people this stupifyingly dumb, you need to pretend they don't exist.
"That which is hateful to you, do not do to your fellow. That is the whole Torah; the rest is the explanation; go and learn."
Jewish "Law code", motherfucker.
Go and learn.
And the U.S. Constitution enshrined African-Americans as 3/5ths of a person, but we don't really practice that anymore, either, do we?
Go and learn what a Living Document is before you post your idiotic bullshit. Until then, stfu.
The message was carved by the neighbor onto their own fence next door, not on ours.
So, it's technically not vandalism, but that doesn't necessarily make it any less of a hate crime, since clearly the fence is visible to anyone walking past. Sorry you have to see that.
Sets the can down at the end of the drive. Looks around for people watching, produces a baseball from his pocket then tosses it over the fence as if by accident. Composes himself. Marches to the neighbor's house to ask for his ball back.
@18 - Bigotry comes in many forms, but I don't think it means what you think it means.
In that case, I most sincerely hope your neighbor scratches/scrawls/spray paints "Donald Ward (or whatever your real name is) is a racist, homophobic piece of shit" somewhere on their property where you'll have no choice but to see it every single fucking day.
Because you'd be totally cool with that, right?
Obviously the existence of bibles and biblical notation is not intimidation or a hate crime (even though basically all of them at some point tell you to conquer or kill other people), and you of course have the right to carve biblical notations into your own property.
But the choice of this quote and the intended audience is pretty clearly one of intimidation. But it is also not a direct threat, and also simply a notation from one of the most ubiquitous and widely read books in western canon.
With that said, I don't blame Shaffer for contacting the police. It's good to get this on their radar.
I am not a lawyer but I don't think this is going to have the elements of WA malicious harassment.
https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?…
Not sure if there's another law to charge under.
Which is why responding by saying "wow, what an asshole move" is appropriate and necessary.