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1

Lisa, why you do business with DoorDash?

2

Lisa, are you lobbying for the same legislation at your home in North Bend?

3

Door dash ticks all the boxes for an unsustainable business model: more traffic/carbon waste, restaurant packaging waste, higher food costs and yes exploitative low wage labor. It will be interesting to see how labor standards enforce “time engaged” in a world where door dashers are considered independent contractors. I support relief for workers but I can’t support the industry or use their services.

4

Well either legislate that they be treated as employees.... or in the alternative they are "independent contractors".

Frankly that determination should have been made a long, long time ago either by L&I or Dept of Revenue.

That said, as they are de facto "independent contractors", absent any legislation or governmental dept. oversight, most of what Ms. Herbold is grousing about is pure grade A bull plop at best and political pandering and stirring the class hate pot.. Who cares. Its their decision to take on the work and do so at the price offered.

What gives the government, the right to tell anyone what they should sell their services for? They are essentially a delivery service... and both the buyer (door dash) and seller (driver) have agreed to the terms of their contract.

If that doesn't work, then by all means Lisa, get in the middle and legislate the hell out of it so we can have a price structure like Uber... where nobody, save the rich can afford the service and we'll have even more people who would like to work, be unemployed.

Its like the min wage, I suppose its better to have 5 people unemployed than 5 people employed at $10/hour.

5

The only good thing about companies like DoorDash that I can think of are that they pay their drivers such abysmally low wages they don't have much incentive to provide good customer service. Sounds counter-intuitive, but I've received about a dozen meals in the last year or so left outside my front door that were ordered by neighbors whom I don't know - and of course they don't print the delivery address on their receipts, so there's no way to redeliver the meals to the correct location. I've even tried contacting their customer service lines to report the mis-deliveries and have been told "eh, not a problem. We'll contact the customer and place a new order."

So, thanks for the free food, neighbors, but you have to wonder how much loss DD takes on these, as I imagine this occurs with some regularity; although I suspect that, unfortunately, the driver is probably the one who gets hit for the mistake, even if it's not entirely their fault.

6

Would it be unfair to point out that many of the drivers do indeed utilize every government handout available.... (food stamps, subsidized housing, welfare etc.) while not declaring their "gig income".

Perhaps another reason to shut them down.

Lets have higher and higher rates of individuals completely reliant on social services. Its one step closer to us being a nation of welfare recipients and deserving cases unable to fend for themselves.

7

What gives the government, the right to tell anyone what they should sell their services for?

@4 -- You are basically arguing against a minimum wage, in all cases. Fair enough, but most economists would argue that in most cases, a minimum wage does not increase unemployment, and reduces income and wealth disparity. The former is not intuitive, but there are studies to support this. Here is a good discussion: https://theconversation.com/does-raising-the-minimum-wage-kill-jobs-the-centurylong-search-for-the-elusive-answer-shows-why-economics-is-so-difficult-but-data-sure-helps-157575

As for the latter, I have a feeling you don't give a fuck. Again, fair enough. But most of us in this town really do care about income and wealth disparity, and would like to minimize it. That's why there is widespread support for a minimum wage -- the only arguments I've ever heard of is what it should be. But hey, I guess you can be "that guy" screaming from the sidelines that we shouldn't have one at all.

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@7 How wrong you are on those assumption.... very wrong.

The min wage is a job destroyer and any competent economist will tell you that. In fact its call the ghetto maker.

There will always be income and wealth disparity. What of it? Why is that inherently unfair? You make more than your neighbor...should be go out and take part of your paycheck and even things out? Because that is what you are talking about here.

The poverty rate has been steadily declining, standard of living is going up and its not done on the back of "income disparity programs or other such nonsense".

Its from a strong productive work force, which is built by capitalism, innovation and freedom of choice. Sadly, the programs you champion have exactly the opposite effect. (I know that won't make sense to you as you have no understanding of economics and want to stand on your social equality soap box and scream like a deranged parrot mimicking the latest socialist slogan)

17

As the last election showed, the city is tired of what the city has tried to address homelessness. This is just more grandstanding on a separate issue just to give shade. You’re the one that wanted to legalize being a criminal. The election is coming and we all remember.


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