Obiously Mr. Davis did something egregious for a 68 year sentence.
However, Commenters
- who don't or refuse to understand that the theme of this article is love and sex
- who have a cold, dead heart, and lead a loveless life, free from joy,
- who are bigots capable of projecting their worst case assumptions about somebody they know nothing of apart from the article because of their prejudices,
- who cannot see beyond the facade of the prison system, where someone has made true progress
- who are so partisan they read demands that only their minds made up but didn't appear in the article,
- who presume to know better than the editors of the Slog about appropriate content for a Love and Sex issue,
Should just STFU, or go start your own blog/slog, or join your brethren on Nextdoor.
@2 You are the only one who assumed anything about anyone. Instead of imagining what you think my thoughts and motivations might be, try to follow my example in just sticking to the objective evidence available. It's quite easy to find out what Mr. Davis did – first degree murder, and multiple other counts of attempted murder. This is simply the latest of several Slog posts, as I said, wherein an incarcerated murderer is permitted to whine about the restrictions of prison with nary a mention of their own victims.
@3 You'd undoubtedly consider the "victim" a "sociopath" and "unrepentant killer" (my, someone's been watching a lot of true crime) too. Looks like you didn't do enough reading before posting your smug ragebait, because the first degree murder in question was retaliatory. The press and prosecutor's office stated that the victim, Spearman, had previously committed a murder in Seattle before being killed in SeaTac (Davis' case). Is that enough "mention of the victims" for you, or does it actually weaken your point?
You seem to be a classic case of overestimating your own intelligence. Stuff a sock down your windpipe, you bootlicking bitch.
@4 I read the case – you'll forgive me if I don't consider a "retaliatory" gang ambush murder to be as reasonable and indicative of a normal psychology as you do. And yes, it's quite possible Spearman was a bad person too, and he should have been locked up before Davis murdered him – and shot a woman and child in the backseat (a part you obviously didn't read).
The "bootlicking" part is so funny – "If you think people who perform brutal murder, and also shoot women and kids, are best kept safely away from everyone else, you're a fascist!"
To be clear (since evidently no one is going to bother reading the primary documents but me) he only shot AT the woman and her two year old and only managed to strike their seat, the front passenger and driver were the only ones struck in this particular act of psychopathic violence. –The Bootlicker
@7 An impressive takedown. Wish I could say I was astonished when @4 seriously believed it "weakened my point" that the facts of the murder involved shooting into a packed car, but...
@10 To quote you: "...an incarcerated murderer is permitted to whine about the restrictions of prison with nary a mention of their own victims."
I mentioned the victim - someone who had previously committed a gang murder. Having done so, your argument looks far sillier. Is your argument that his death, as part of the same gang conflict, indicates Davis is a unhinged "sociopath" instead of an unfortunate participant in one specific conflict? You strike me as the target audience of Jason Rantz - very easily fearmongered.
Also, do you believe incarcerated people shouldn't have access to a platform of expression? How many years does someone have to spend in prison to deserve a harmless blog post about their relationship? What the fuck is wrong with you? You too, @8. Be happy you live such snug lives that you can deride this kind of situation with no ability to empathize.
@11 Again, as reasonable and sympathetic as you may feel it is to be an "unfortunate participant" (a funny euphemism for a person firing shots into a car with a woman and her kid) in a murder because you believed (he didn't actually know, obviously Spearman never got a trial or conviction because he was murdered) they'd ordered (he didn't even actually think Spearman was the one who killed him–will you PLEASE just read the primary documents like me before commenting?) someone killed, I do in fact believe it's more reasonable to describe those actions as intensely abnormal and psychopathic. His victims extend far beyond just that – the family members of the person he killed, the passenger he shot, the woman and child he attempted to shoot. He gets fed & sheltered for free now - better than his victims got.
And yes, I don't really think he should be writing articles attempting to garner sympathy about how uncomfortable prison is, writing incessant appeals, etc! I think as long as he's writing articles about "How I Convinced a Woman to Marry a Convicted Murder, and Prison is Too Unpleasant", rather than "Why I Should Spend the Rest of My Life in a Constant State of Shame and Terror" or "Why I Should Never Be Allowed in Society Again", then it's pretty clear he feels no guilt and it would be really reasonable for him to spend the rest of his life in silent contrition! This isn't hard!
It was really cool to remove my top comment where I pointed out this wasn't the first time the Slog has had a murderer write an article complaining about prison conditions, and then leave the goofy reply immediately afterward intact. As I recall, one of them was even convicted of ordering a murder from behind bars. Do you want me to find those articles and prove it, or...
Beautiful article. To the critics: If in discussions of history we (generally it's us white dudes i hear it from) can constantly whip out "people are complicated and have good and bad in them at the same time and have to be understood in the context of their time and place" when it comes to Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, why the heck can't we apply the same logic to people such as the author?
The most interesting part of the comments here is when @7 says "Oh, as if that caveat [that the killing was retaliatory] makes a difference. Two murders make a right?" So now you're finally admitting that what Israel is doing is wrong. I knew you'd come around...
@14 Perhaps because there is no "complicated context" that makes it acceptable to murder someone over a rumor, send bullets flying toward a child, and then spend the rest of your life conniving for release from prison.
I'm sorry, but even ignoring whatever he did to get put into prison, this is horrible! He got all their friends and family together to peer pressure her into marrying him - and by "marry" we mean "throw her entire life away on the chance of old age retirement with some guy."
@16 Exactly - it's a cynical maneuver meant to pad out his endless appeals and parole hearings ("Mr. Davis has published several articles, and is now married...") which assuredly re-traumatize his victims' families every time they come up.
Obiously Mr. Davis did something egregious for a 68 year sentence.
However, Commenters
- who don't or refuse to understand that the theme of this article is love and sex
- who have a cold, dead heart, and lead a loveless life, free from joy,
- who are bigots capable of projecting their worst case assumptions about somebody they know nothing of apart from the article because of their prejudices,
- who cannot see beyond the facade of the prison system, where someone has made true progress
- who are so partisan they read demands that only their minds made up but didn't appear in the article,
- who presume to know better than the editors of the Slog about appropriate content for a Love and Sex issue,
Should just STFU, or go start your own blog/slog, or join your brethren on Nextdoor.
@2 You are the only one who assumed anything about anyone. Instead of imagining what you think my thoughts and motivations might be, try to follow my example in just sticking to the objective evidence available. It's quite easy to find out what Mr. Davis did – first degree murder, and multiple other counts of attempted murder. This is simply the latest of several Slog posts, as I said, wherein an incarcerated murderer is permitted to whine about the restrictions of prison with nary a mention of their own victims.
@3 You'd undoubtedly consider the "victim" a "sociopath" and "unrepentant killer" (my, someone's been watching a lot of true crime) too. Looks like you didn't do enough reading before posting your smug ragebait, because the first degree murder in question was retaliatory. The press and prosecutor's office stated that the victim, Spearman, had previously committed a murder in Seattle before being killed in SeaTac (Davis' case). Is that enough "mention of the victims" for you, or does it actually weaken your point?
You seem to be a classic case of overestimating your own intelligence. Stuff a sock down your windpipe, you bootlicking bitch.
@4 I read the case – you'll forgive me if I don't consider a "retaliatory" gang ambush murder to be as reasonable and indicative of a normal psychology as you do. And yes, it's quite possible Spearman was a bad person too, and he should have been locked up before Davis murdered him – and shot a woman and child in the backseat (a part you obviously didn't read).
The "bootlicking" part is so funny – "If you think people who perform brutal murder, and also shoot women and kids, are best kept safely away from everyone else, you're a fascist!"
To be clear (since evidently no one is going to bother reading the primary documents but me) he only shot AT the woman and her two year old and only managed to strike their seat, the front passenger and driver were the only ones struck in this particular act of psychopathic violence. –The Bootlicker
This is asinine.
He chose the life he has when he pulled the trigger.
@7 An impressive takedown. Wish I could say I was astonished when @4 seriously believed it "weakened my point" that the facts of the murder involved shooting into a packed car, but...
@10 To quote you: "...an incarcerated murderer is permitted to whine about the restrictions of prison with nary a mention of their own victims."
I mentioned the victim - someone who had previously committed a gang murder. Having done so, your argument looks far sillier. Is your argument that his death, as part of the same gang conflict, indicates Davis is a unhinged "sociopath" instead of an unfortunate participant in one specific conflict? You strike me as the target audience of Jason Rantz - very easily fearmongered.
Also, do you believe incarcerated people shouldn't have access to a platform of expression? How many years does someone have to spend in prison to deserve a harmless blog post about their relationship? What the fuck is wrong with you? You too, @8. Be happy you live such snug lives that you can deride this kind of situation with no ability to empathize.
@11 Again, as reasonable and sympathetic as you may feel it is to be an "unfortunate participant" (a funny euphemism for a person firing shots into a car with a woman and her kid) in a murder because you believed (he didn't actually know, obviously Spearman never got a trial or conviction because he was murdered) they'd ordered (he didn't even actually think Spearman was the one who killed him–will you PLEASE just read the primary documents like me before commenting?) someone killed, I do in fact believe it's more reasonable to describe those actions as intensely abnormal and psychopathic. His victims extend far beyond just that – the family members of the person he killed, the passenger he shot, the woman and child he attempted to shoot. He gets fed & sheltered for free now - better than his victims got.
And yes, I don't really think he should be writing articles attempting to garner sympathy about how uncomfortable prison is, writing incessant appeals, etc! I think as long as he's writing articles about "How I Convinced a Woman to Marry a Convicted Murder, and Prison is Too Unpleasant", rather than "Why I Should Spend the Rest of My Life in a Constant State of Shame and Terror" or "Why I Should Never Be Allowed in Society Again", then it's pretty clear he feels no guilt and it would be really reasonable for him to spend the rest of his life in silent contrition! This isn't hard!
It was really cool to remove my top comment where I pointed out this wasn't the first time the Slog has had a murderer write an article complaining about prison conditions, and then leave the goofy reply immediately afterward intact. As I recall, one of them was even convicted of ordering a murder from behind bars. Do you want me to find those articles and prove it, or...
Beautiful article. To the critics: If in discussions of history we (generally it's us white dudes i hear it from) can constantly whip out "people are complicated and have good and bad in them at the same time and have to be understood in the context of their time and place" when it comes to Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, why the heck can't we apply the same logic to people such as the author?
The most interesting part of the comments here is when @7 says "Oh, as if that caveat [that the killing was retaliatory] makes a difference. Two murders make a right?" So now you're finally admitting that what Israel is doing is wrong. I knew you'd come around...
@14 Perhaps because there is no "complicated context" that makes it acceptable to murder someone over a rumor, send bullets flying toward a child, and then spend the rest of your life conniving for release from prison.
I'm sorry, but even ignoring whatever he did to get put into prison, this is horrible! He got all their friends and family together to peer pressure her into marrying him - and by "marry" we mean "throw her entire life away on the chance of old age retirement with some guy."
@16 Exactly - it's a cynical maneuver meant to pad out his endless appeals and parole hearings ("Mr. Davis has published several articles, and is now married...") which assuredly re-traumatize his victims' families every time they come up.